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Re: What's happening? « Result #1 Yesterday at 1:01pm »
From what you describe it seems America has been more than successful at exporting its favorite products- Capitolism, Consumerism and Fear. With this accomplished it seems to me America should come home and see how its "Grand Experiment" plays out in other places.
Re: What's happening? « Result #2 on Jun 16, 2013, 12:23am »
Iran's clown-circus election of 2013 is finally over with. It was a month-long period where everyone in the nation was captivated by what was essentially a TV-show (more accurately "multimedia-show,") where you can participate to decide the outcome. It is apparent that no one in the general population knows anything about the presidential candidates other than what they see on TV, read in a newspaper, hear from a friend or a blog or facebook, etc. This means that the general population knows only a facade, and not a "real" person running for president. In fact, I suspect that there are no real people running for president, only actors portraying personages for the media. I saw all of Iran's presidential candidates on TV once or twice. I saw a group of weak men, completely unfit for leading any nation. I swear, Ahmadinejad is an awesomely cool son of a bitch compared to these assholes.
The new president of Iran is a moron. The people of Tehran, and other big cities with liberal/reformist majority populations, are appeased and glad about the election results it seems. The people in rural Iran, while generally tending to be much more in favor of the conservative/fundamentalist camp, aren't really too concerned with the national elections as much as with their local islamic council elections which coincides with the national election every four years. People in rural areas know even less about the presidential candidates than people in the cities. One 45 year old man, Kazem, told me that the people in his town will just "vote for whoever everyone else is voting for" and he also claimed that the whole area where he lives has been experiencing an unprecedented period of prosperity since ahmadinejad became president.
Ironically, the area has also been experiencing the highest crime rates in its history. Last winter, I am told there was a crime spree that included everything from break-ins to theft of thick electrical cables from the main power-grid, which apparently resulted in a blackout that lasted a couple of days. I'm personally no stranger to the magnitude of crime and corruption going on in the area, and I do believe that increased prosperity and wealth has brought increased crime and corruption with it there. Trespassing and theft were unheard of 50 years ago, but so was a life of luxury where you could afford not to work. Today, there is a whole class of people who don't work at all because their wealth and capital work for them. And then there is a large population of low-income doomed-to-be-peons low-class people whose only difference with the wealthy guys is that they were never afforded the opportunity to steal and swindle large sums of money from masses of unsuspecting, trusting, hard-working people. So naturally, to steal from the rich person becomes morally right. Maybe capitalism, rather than prosperity, is the real bringer of crime.
Compared to 50 years ago, the rural people aren't so much prospering more as they are in possession of more capital. They still eat the same food, and they live the same simple rural lifestyles, but now they have to buy fancy clothes, cellphones, 50 inch flatscreens, and countless other status-symbols to show off their capital. Fascinatingly, people don't spend as much time in each others' houses as they used to 50 years ago. In rural Iran, everyone's house was always packed to the brim with guests. In fact, all the houses used to leave their doors open all the time in rural villages and large get-togethers would constantly happen on the spur of the moment. Today, we hide our precious possessions behind closed doors, and we despise guests and neighbors.
Re: What's happening? « Result #3 on Jun 6, 2013, 1:49am »
That racist arab-hate guy was on TV again yesterday, this time talking about alcohol. He started off with a "historical fact" about how iranians were making wine from wild grapes thousands of years ago. Then he claimed that wine was always a matter of pride for the iranian people, until the arabs came and tried to eradicate it. He claimed that iran is the world's largest grape producer without a wine industry. (*the actual fact is that wine was being made on the iranian plateau thousands of years ago, before the iranians ever came here.)
Anyway, he made a whole case for why a "real" iranian should be a drinker and a lover of alcoholic drinks, and a maker of wine in his basement. He went on to name every kind of alcoholic drink known to man, giving a bit of history and background on each as he went along the list. He made it sound like it's uncool to not know the difference between scotch and bourbon. I thought he was blatantly trying to force the image that alcohol and drinking is cool and awesome. Like he was some messenger from the beyond, telling the ignorant iranian peasantry about the marvels of alcohol in the sky-nation of america, making them feel like they're being denied the nectar of life by a bunch of traitors who are the backers of a degenerate arab religion unworthy of the sophistication of the persian man/wine connoisseur par excellence.
Then some hours later, I swear to god, I saw an idiot who had watched the show, who was talking to his friend about what the holy man from heaven had said, enlightening him about the white gods' drinking culture of love and awesomeness and absolute coolness, invoking and further spreading feelings of resentment towards the iranian government, islam and the arabs.
Edit: Alcoholic drinks are widely available in Iran. In rural areas people make aragh (not arak) from distilling raisins, and also red wine. Grapes are a very cheap commodity, so no one in rural iran ever goes thirsty if they are a drinker. And in cities, while the quality of the aragh (it's supposed to be over 90% alcohol or something) and wine is lower than rural areas, there's a wide variety of "smuggled" canned and bottled alcoholic drinks of all kind easily available on the market. But drinking is strictly a private matter in rural areas, and while young people drink on the streets in Tehran all the time as a matter of course, they try not to attract attention to themselves. There are no bars or any kind of government-sanctioned drinking-places in Iran, although anyone is free to invite people to their house and get piss-drunk. (I think it goes without saying that the booze-smugglers are also known as the government.)
Re: What's happening? « Result #4 on Jun 4, 2013, 9:31am »
Because the quality of programming on Iranian TV is so horribly low, a lot of people in Iran make use of satellite dishes to receive the free and, IMHO equally low-quality horseshit, created in the west.
A couple of days ago, I happened to catch five minutes of an iranian-american one-man political talk show. You know, the kind of show where one guy sitting behind a desk talks for an hour, and maybe interviews a guest or two, but it's not comedy. Now, what this guy had to say was really interesting. He claimed that the Arabs were responsible for all of Iran's troubles. In five minutes, he created a huge edifice of racial hatred against all Arabs. His attempts at spreading racism were so transparently visible in every sentence he spoke that I could not help but laugh out loud.
Yet, these iranian-american channels, of which there are countless many, have actual viewers and fans among the Iranian population. They promote western culture shamelessly.
In Iran today, if you don't watch BBC-Persian, Manoto 1, VOA (voice of america,) PMC (persian music channel,) and a few other channels on a regular basis, you're "out of the loop" -- like I am. Not part of the TV-culture, means having almost nothing to talk about with the average person.
If the west had an agenda against Iran, and that's not a very big if, I think it could be taken for granted that these television networks work to destabilize the Iranian regime. These TV channels accuse the Iranian government of totalitarianism for gathering satellite dishes off of people's roofs and balconies by brute-police force, as they are known to do every once in a while. Yet, the people are far from intimidated. There are many good reasons for calling the Iranian government totalitarian, but this is just not one of them.
Re: The miserable state of humanity. « Result #5 on May 30, 2013, 2:12am »
In this era, the american state openly equates people with "consumers." All allied states follow suit.
I was thinking about the mexican cartel situation and it seems to me that the war on drugs is most certainly never going to end, because it is a source of huge income for its perpetrators. I mean, how does something as simple as people smoking weed in the US turn into an elaborate war-circus with big guns and murder and high-level political corruption and trillions of dollars of money laundering? Jesus christ.
If the state decides that everyone in America must start smoking cannabis, the consumers will be pressured to conform. The american consumer, IMHO, cannot choose to not conform to the demands of the state, this is impossible. This is evident in our buying-addiction. We cannot help but be helpless consumers, drowning in an ocean of products.
In rural Iran, there is no concept of a man or woman staying single. The state (via the local culture) will not allow it. Of course, anyone is free to remain unmarried, but you are doomed to fail at a normal life if you don't start a family. The state of rural Iran today views men as workers and women as baby factories. In Tehran, the state has a more western, non-discriminatory attitude towards people: soul-less slaves.
Female dominance is undeniable in the rural area where I used to live. Because of a multitude of factors, rural men have completely lost their freedom to act and to decide. The men appear to be like puppets that the women control. A smart woman is one whose husband is doing good business, and doing good business naturally implies swindling. I saw the men as RC robots that the women were playing with. Each woman gets her own at age ~18 and due to factors such as Mahr, influences originating from television, the fact that women have to stay inside all day to take care of the home and the children, and sex, they learn to dominate their man fairly quickly and quite permanently.
Another point is children. In rural Iran children are workers, whereas in Tehran they are only consumers. Ahmad, a father of two new-generation consumer-children, says that his own father created all his wealth via the free labor that his three sons provided him. The youngest tended a flock of sheep (which means regular meat on the table, among other things) while the older ones worked on the land, growing wheat and planting orchards. The father in turn gave them a place to sleep, food and clothes until their ~20th birthday, at which time they moved out with their new wives.
The government in Iran pays families 50,000 tomans per month per person. In a city where families are small and the children generate no wealth, this figure is an insult IMHO, but that doesn't stop people from collecting it. In a rural area, a family of ten receives 500,000 tomans per month, which is a lot of money considering these people make their own bread and meat and milk. Their expenses are generally infinitesimal compared to western ideals of consumer spending.
Living in a rural area, there is obvious pressure to start a family, because any rational man can see that it's the only way to "get ahead" at life. It is the only road that the state has left open, so to speak. And once a man settles down, he is no longer a man. He is a slave-provider to a family. His life is over, for all practical purposes. From then on, his existence is a steady, stable routine. He works hard all day, and goes home to have dinner, watch tv, and relax in the warmth of his wife's arms and the loving home she keeps, a most pleasant and addictive experience I am told. Ahmad, as any other ~30 year old rural man, will tell you that without the comfort and solace of his home and his family, he would not have the motivation to work in the desert every day from dawn to dusk. He would not have the need to work every day either.
This is slavery. We are being forced to comply and conform, but the force is applied indirectly so that we gladly choose to conform because we believe it will make our life better.
Ayatollah Khamenei has called on Iranian women to procreate. His army of Islam needs warriors and laborers and new baby factories. Incidentally, that woman I mentioned who killed herself had a 2 month old baby, and two older children. She was allegedly suffering from postpartum depression, and according to what people were saying, she had gotten pregnant because and I quote "The Imam had demanded it." This is completely normal behavior for a brainwashed person who gets programmed by television and other media all day every day.
These brainwashed idiots are so far from their true selves, they somewhat resemble cardboard cutouts of people, making repetitive mechanical movements, pulled by strings...kinda like in Home Alone 1.
Re: What are you reading now? « Result #6 on May 27, 2013, 7:54am »
Paul Joseph Watson's "order out of chaos: elite sponsored terrorism and the new world order" Here's a few words from the beginning:
What's it all about? The New World Order is not a 'conspiracy' in the strictest sense of the term - it is an agenda. The agenda is orchestrated by a power elite that thinks it has the divine right to commandeer total control of your life. But who are 'they'? Who are the 'power elite'? The UN, the EU, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, the Club of Rome. The list goes on and there have been many books written that cover the history of these groups and how they connect to each other. The intention of this book is to highlight how their unified agenda manifests itself in modern day developments with particular attention paid to the Hegelian Dialectic. To research these groups and their unified agenda is to understand who really controls your destiny and where this planet is heading, unless we speak out against the agenda itself. The agenda is a worldwide consolidation and centralization of power into the hands of an all-encompassing World Government. This system will evolve from the European Union, (already in place) the American Union, (derived from NAFTA) and the Asian Union. When these three models are in existence, they will be merged together to create the One World Government. The society and control mechanisms they are manufacturing to 'compliment' this World Government combine the most extreme aspects of communism and fascism, mixed with a nightmare Orwellian technocracy. Specifically (and in no particular order): a microchipped population; a world army; a world centralized banking system; the utter destruction of all national identity and pride; the destruction of all religion except their own 'world religion'; the ability to control each and every person through means of mind control (interlocked with the microchip); to bring an end to all industrialization; to seize control of the environmental movement at the top of the power structure and use it for the purposes of continental land-grabs; to initiate a program of population control (via warfare, vaccination, starvation and diseases) whereby 80% are 'terminated'; to encourage and eventually legalize the use of drugs and to make pornography and other expressions of hedonism an 'art form'; to suppress all scientific development except that which aids their agenda (an example being cold fusion and other technologies that would end our dependency on fossil fuels); to demoralize humanity and breed culture to become more and more decadent (meaning when the sick and absurd becomes acceptable) - this is achieved via drugs, pornography, mindless television, degenerate rock, pop, rap, hip-hop music, among a host of others; to encourage multiculturalism, immigration, and to brand anyone who opposes these issues as 'racist'; to make pedophilia, rape and sexual conquests acceptable and respectable; to cause total collapse of the world's economies and engender political chaos; to penetrate and subvert all governments and coerce them into destroying their country's national sovereignty; to take control of education in the developed world with the intention of suppressing non-consensus information and pushing left-wing, liberal, socialistic viewpoints (Socialism masquerades as a movement of the downtrodden masses but is in fact clearly an attempt at consolidating wealth and power by the elite); to use terrorism or 'scareorrism' as a means of gaining the consent of the public, who which actually support this agenda and give up their basic rights if it is presented as the solution to terrorism.
And also more Mikhail Bakunin for me this week.
Edit: I think this new world order is obviously a unicultural affair. If you're not of western culture then you have no place in this new world.
Re: Economic pressure in Iran « Result #7 on May 24, 2013, 7:30am »
Just came back from a short visit down south. I noticed that economic pressure was just simply the farthest thing from people's minds. Things might be a little tight in Tehran, but in rural chaharmahal people are prospering like _never_ before. There was a lot of construction going on in town. People were mostly excited because the town-council elections are near, and the political-types were ecstatically laboring to get their candidates elected. Turaj, for example, was busy "buying and selling" votes to make sure his nephew gets one of the five council seats, while his battle with the Ahrar development rages on covertly. The national presidential election seemed to be of much less concern to the village people, who all professed to knowing next to nothing about any of the candidates. In sharp contrast to the people of Tehran, the rural people were very happy with the current government. I did not hear one person complain about the economy. Everyone was just kinda full of hope, working hard to make more money than they did last year.
I talked to a lot of people the past few days. Got a ton of interesting stories. Rural Iran is so much more alive and vibrant than the city of Tehran, it's crazy. And one woman committed suicide in a small neighboring village like three nights ago. She hung herself from a tree. Various people, aged 45-80, whom I talked to all agreed that this was the first time a woman took her own life in the area as far as they can remember, "it was unheard of" they said.
My pen feels a little dull. I feel like I haven't written anything in weeks.
Edit: @f4rz4n3 I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly, but I'm glad you decided to pop in.
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Re: Economic pressure in Iran « Result #8 on May 21, 2013, 1:31pm »
Hello f4rz4n3 and welcome. Don't worry about logic. Thoughts are what they are. Just keep coming through eventually, something you say will spark someone or something someone else says will engage you and you will be swept into the Subversify Super Dome.
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Re: The miserable state of humanity. « Result #9 on May 21, 2013, 1:27pm »
ADP. I haven't been ignoring this thread but rather taking my time going through it. I think you may actually have another article here. Spring-until mid June- is my busiest time so I rarely get to sit and ponder. I will I hope have more input when I do have time though, if you haven't left me in the dust by then.
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Re: Crusaders « Result #10 on May 21, 2013, 1:25pm »
No worries. It was something we thought we'd give a go. On the surface it looks like only the regulars are commenting here however, this particular article did not garner many individual hits either. Which is interesting in itself. Is it the title? Are people tired of hearing about American Crazy Christians? So many questions.
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