Post by asiaticdarkperson on Dec 19, 2012 3:30:54 GMT -5
From the book of Enoch:
Chapter 6
1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men
3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not
4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations
5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves
6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn
7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal,
8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.
Chapter 7
1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms
2and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they
3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed
4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against
5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and
6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
Chapter 8
1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all
2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they
3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . .
The first thing I notice here is that the fallen angels each instructed mankind on specific areas of knowledge. This is also true of the gods of old.
According to Gnostic mythology, Lucifer (the chief Arcon) rebelled against God. Whereas the Greeks believed that Zeus (variously known as Jupiter, Dyaus Pitar, Sky father) came to power after overthrowing his father Cronus.
Next, the ancient gods were constantly seducing and impregnating mortals. The resulting children (eg. Heracles, Perseus, etc.) were the heroes of old; men (and women) of extraordinary skill and power.
I suspect that the giants referred to in the book of enoch are identical to the ancient heroes.
It seems to me that for a very long time people all over the world worshipped these fallen angels as gods, until (as far as I can tell) the rise of Zarathustra. (~600-1000BC)
This prophet claimed that there was only a single true God, Ahura Mazda. He decreed that all others were Daiva (modern persian Diiv (pronounced Deev); roughly translated as demon or devil)
The ancient Sumerians it seems were avid practicioners of Diiv- (or devil-) worship. As were the ancient Greeks and Persians.
The book of Enoch, most likely originally written in the days of ancient Sumer, claims that the fallen angels were destroyed and removed from the earth. This is obviously a falsehood, as the same fallen angels were being worshipped thousands of years later under different names.
Lucifer. Ahriman. Iblis. Semjaza
I believe this devil, lucifer, is the invisible, impersonal force behind man's self-importance and self-obsession today. He (not really a he) is the reason mankind is a homicidal maniac today, IMHO.
Also worth note, Julian Jaynes in "Consciousness and the Mind" has an interesting theory about the religion of our ancestors. He believes ancient man, before arriving at a practical sense of self-awareness, heard voices that guided his way. According to Mr. Jaynes, whose theory is partially based on ancient writings such as the Iliad, ancient man worshipped the voices and called them gods. (the bicameral mind) This hypothesis was later picked up by Terence Mckenna in his theory of mankind's psychedelic-induced evolutionary leap. (Grainne, read his books before you judge.
Hrm.. so a devil that speaks in our heads and guides our acts, while we believe the voice is our self speaking. (interesting parallel to the god-khod-self theory; see common language article from last year.)
Chapter 6
1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men
3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not
4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations
5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves
6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn
7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal,
8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.
Chapter 7
1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms
2and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they
3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed
4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against
5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and
6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
Chapter 8
1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all
2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they
3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . .
The first thing I notice here is that the fallen angels each instructed mankind on specific areas of knowledge. This is also true of the gods of old.
According to Gnostic mythology, Lucifer (the chief Arcon) rebelled against God. Whereas the Greeks believed that Zeus (variously known as Jupiter, Dyaus Pitar, Sky father) came to power after overthrowing his father Cronus.
Next, the ancient gods were constantly seducing and impregnating mortals. The resulting children (eg. Heracles, Perseus, etc.) were the heroes of old; men (and women) of extraordinary skill and power.
I suspect that the giants referred to in the book of enoch are identical to the ancient heroes.
It seems to me that for a very long time people all over the world worshipped these fallen angels as gods, until (as far as I can tell) the rise of Zarathustra. (~600-1000BC)
This prophet claimed that there was only a single true God, Ahura Mazda. He decreed that all others were Daiva (modern persian Diiv (pronounced Deev); roughly translated as demon or devil)
The ancient Sumerians it seems were avid practicioners of Diiv- (or devil-) worship. As were the ancient Greeks and Persians.
The book of Enoch, most likely originally written in the days of ancient Sumer, claims that the fallen angels were destroyed and removed from the earth. This is obviously a falsehood, as the same fallen angels were being worshipped thousands of years later under different names.
Lucifer. Ahriman. Iblis. Semjaza
I believe this devil, lucifer, is the invisible, impersonal force behind man's self-importance and self-obsession today. He (not really a he) is the reason mankind is a homicidal maniac today, IMHO.
Also worth note, Julian Jaynes in "Consciousness and the Mind" has an interesting theory about the religion of our ancestors. He believes ancient man, before arriving at a practical sense of self-awareness, heard voices that guided his way. According to Mr. Jaynes, whose theory is partially based on ancient writings such as the Iliad, ancient man worshipped the voices and called them gods. (the bicameral mind) This hypothesis was later picked up by Terence Mckenna in his theory of mankind's psychedelic-induced evolutionary leap. (Grainne, read his books before you judge.
Hrm.. so a devil that speaks in our heads and guides our acts, while we believe the voice is our self speaking. (interesting parallel to the god-khod-self theory; see common language article from last year.)
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