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Post by karlsie on May 23, 2009 0:51:06 GMT -5
I still find your viewpoint interesting, Heather. In my perception, her self portraits made her uglier than she really was. She exaggerated the unibrow, gave herself a mustache that doesn't appear in any of her snap shots and drew herself with very stern, very remote expressions, even though in real life she was an enigmatic person. Her portraits of others were far gentler. Once you understand the concept that she drew from a broken body and every day of her life was torture, you might take a different view of her art, although it may not change your view of Shalma.
Mitch, precisely because Shalma was willing to play the role of a woman whose beauty was not conventional and did nothing to change her unibrow, except during that time of rebellious youth when she shaved it off, i give her credit. Especially when we've just discussed how women are being measured by looks not talent.
I watched the latest Transporter movie not too long ago, that was its usual, unbelievable fast action thrills except for one thing, which i found somewhat remarkable. The heroine of the story had freckles. Not just a few, we can dust them off for the camera freckles, but tons and tons of impossible to hide freckles. She also had a slightly ski run nose. She shouldn't have been beautiful by conventional standards, yet she was. Not only that, she actually had a couple of good lines to say. Utterly amazing.
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Post by GoblinQueen on May 23, 2009 4:36:14 GMT -5
I know Frida's pain was a major part of her art. I know many aspects of it are symbolism too, even the exaggerated hairs on her face. I still don't think she had a disregard for her appearance. In all the photographs, her art, etc that I have seen of her, she has taken great care it seems in her appearance. She is well arranged and decorated. Shunning traditional norms, and going by your own rules doesn’t mean you cannot take an interest in personal appearance as far as it makes you happy. It’s fun to see such different views of the same topics, and to agree to disagree I guess.
With Salma, most the films I’ve seen of her, she has done what talentless actresses in Hollywood have done, shown off her body and none of her acting abilities. Like that clip from youtube Maya put up, any porno chick could have done the dance and had the boys drooling. It’s not hard to shake what you got, but it takes skill to draw emotion out of an audience (besides horniness) while repeating rehearsed lines. And if you can look hot while doing it… I guess it doesn’t hurt haha. Maybe her turn as Frida will change my mind.
Freckles are becoming quite the thing in Hollywood actually.
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Post by GoblinQueen on May 23, 2009 4:41:07 GMT -5
I'm glad too, I've always thought freckles were cute!
I'd now like to complain that I don't have cute freckles.
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Post by Maya on May 23, 2009 8:39:03 GMT -5
Karla that clip you posted didn't define Frida well at all. Here is a clip, it says it's the real Frida and according to some of the comments I find it to be legit. She was a beautiful woman who seemed to care about her appearance. There's nothing wrong with that at all. But I do like her take me as I am approach.
(To place youtube videos on a thread when replying to a post, click on the reply link from the last post, by doing so you will have all the options available. Press the little youtube buttion and then paste the address of the video in between the two sets of brackets.
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Post by karlsie on May 23, 2009 23:28:20 GMT -5
Maya, thank you. You are right. That's a beautiful clip; the very heart of Mexico. I had watched so many clips; most of them American trailers, my head began to swim. Once i finally found some authentic Mexican clips, i couldn't get past Jose Jose. In fact, i listened to him three times, then thought, heck with it. I've got to do something. Frida was gracious, beautiful and proud. She was also a realist. She knew there were many beautiful, gracious and proud women. That wasn't how she wanted to be recognized, though. Her message was one of courage and belief in one's self. Her work... well, let's save that for another discussion.
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