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Post by grainnerhuad on Apr 29, 2013 16:06:57 GMT -5
This thread has been set up to discuss the Ronald Thomas West Article "Crusaders" which will post on Friday May 3,2013.
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on May 5, 2013 2:29:06 GMT -5
An exceptionally fitting title.
1. Right wing christianism is a dominant majority in the military, because they are a dominant group in America. This is democracy.
2. America is a christian country, and well, how do I say this, they don't want no stinkin' muslims. Like Iran is a muslim country and doesn't _want_ christians. I think this is because religious minorities in Iran are potentially more easily infiltrated by the intense American/Zionist animosity that exists towards Iran. I've noticed more and more Zoroastrians, Bahaiis and Christians have been leaving Iran in the past few years. And the Iranian government is probably relieved to see them go. In recent years, western countries have, to my knowledge, rarely declined the immigration applications of any Iranian religious minorities. The majority of these end up in the US, afaik. Muslim-Iranians, however, have to bend steel with their minds before they could legally immigrate to the states.
3. I feel there's an insistence here that people in positions of power be prosecuted for crimes. Whatever. Perhaps someone would care to cite as precedent an example of this having ever happened before. America is a democracy: If some nutjob organization is dominating the nation, it's only thanks to "the people." And 'right' is whatever the dominating majority says is right.
4. What with the christians and their jew friends in Jerusalem, the muslims kinda _MUST_ take back the holy land. It's a matter of honor. It's a culture that's been going on for a thousand years, since the first crusade to recapture jerusalem from the muslims failed. So, if a couple billion christians and muslims want to fight over an ancestral blood feud, to find out who would beat up who, what business of yours is it? And more importantly, what business is it to jews?
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Post by Azazel on May 8, 2013 2:30:54 GMT -5
Simply put, this case will go nowhere - why? Two reasons...
1. Because the ICC is little more than a tool of Western powers to justify its own military actions by seeing to it that the leaders of the vanquished rival states are demonized for violations of "human rights:" that's the only reason it exists at all and this entity knows better than to bite the hand that feeds it.
2. Even is the ICC did (by some miracle) decide to go forward with the case, and even if it got a convinction out of it, nothing would come of it for the simple reason that the defendents control more guns than they do: any verdict against the defendents (essentially the political class of the U.S./NATO military empire) would be unenforcable as the defendents have the world's largest military/paramilitary apparatus to hide behind.
As Andrew Jackson once said, "the courts made their ruling, now let's see them enforce it."
Sorry, but this is no a fight that can be won in courtrooms - the only place empires meet their end is on battlefields, as this is the only venue through which they can be seriously challenged...
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on May 12, 2013 22:41:17 GMT -5
Grainne, what's the point of moving discussions here if you're not gonna take part in them yourself? And how come Mitch spends 8 hours a day on facebook, quote "promoting subversify," but he can't spend 1 hour a week on subversify? Some promoter. I think I understand, though. The facebook state of mind doesn't jibe well with forum discussions IMO. I think it's very difficult, if not impossible, to do both at the same time. I'm done being facebook's bitch anyway. I'd much rather carry on a monologue here all by myself than get flooded with tons of worthless information from random people I happen to know.
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Post by grainnerhuad on May 15, 2013 16:13:18 GMT -5
Oh What? ADP! Are you throwing shade on us? LOL!
We are very busy Editors you guys! Ain't nobody got time to comment on discussions and stuff!
But seriously. I didn't have anything to say about this particular article yet. I very often don't comment on articles on the page either. I cannot speak for Mitch, but I very often have facebook open and am not actively "on" it. So it could appear I am there but I am doing other things like writing or avoiding writing in some way.
This discussion was put here at the request of the author. It was something we were willing to try. All feedback is duly noted.
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on May 18, 2013 8:51:38 GMT -5
Oh What? ADP! Are you throwing shade on us? LOL! I wouldn't dream of doing that! I just assumed that it was your idea to move this thread here, because, you know, I didn't know Ronald Thomas West frequented the forum. My bad.
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Post by grainnerhuad on May 21, 2013 13:25:12 GMT -5
No worries. It was something we thought we'd give a go. On the surface it looks like only the regulars are commenting here however, this particular article did not garner many individual hits either. Which is interesting in itself. Is it the title? Are people tired of hearing about American Crazy Christians? So many questions.
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