Dreaming: the pastime of the gods

[asiaticdarkperson]

Alright first thing's first. Karla you really, honestly inspire me. So thanks for being.

I want to share with you guys an ancient secret of power that I hold. The secret knowledge of dreams.

I believe this knowledge used to be rather widespread in ancient antiquity, but at some point it fell into misuse and eventually, disuse. Today, it is considered the ultimate occult secret. I know that many people have gone to great lengths to keep this knowledge hidden throughout the ages.

Today, there is no need to keep it hidden anymore because the natural complexity and intricacy of this science is beyond the mental capacities of modern people. Make no mistake, modern people can learn to practice dreaming no problem, but I believe no modern person could grasp the ultimate nature of this secret today, because it was originally developed and perfected over many thousands of years by generations of dedicated practicioners.

Dreaming is quite simple; it is the capacity to act in dreams as if one were wide-awake. Take a moment to think about this.

In the realm of dreaming, anything is possible. I would compare it to a giant playground with an infinite variety of toys and activities.

Modern man's concern is whether dreams are real or not. This is IMO in no way relevant, and also quite meaningless. I think the real question is, are dreams something that one can experience firsthand?

In dreams we can fly, or breathe under water. In dreams we can travel to the moon or we can talk to our friends or relatives. We can have sex in dreams. There's no need for me to go on as you obviously get the point; anything goes in dreams.

So, as opposed to the reality of waking-life where there are obvious rules and laws that vastly limit the scope of what is possible, the dreaming reality, although it is governed by its own rules, has a much wider scope in terms of what is possible.

Once the initial barrier is broken and one becomes "lucid," anything becomes possible.

I have devoted years of my life to studying this other world, which is actually another realm of awareness IMO. I have brought back many stories from my life as a dreaming-entity, the majority of which have remained untold.

I sincerely wish that you will take a moment to really think about what all this implies.

Try not to think in terms of whether dreams are "as real" as waking reality. Rather, think about dreaming as a realm of infinite potentialities that exists alongside our waking reality and is accessible to every man and woman.

For any new practicioner, learning to "live" in the dream world is just like how a child learns to live in this reality. First we learn to crawl, then we stand up and walk, then we talk and read, and we might even go on to build a space shuttle. All this applies to the dreaming realm as well. One needs to go there regularly in order to become familiar with the environment. In dreaming, first you learn to move, then you might learn to will yourself to go to predetermined places, then you might learn how to will objects to move, etc. etc. But this is all just the tip of the iceberg. As I said, dreaming is a realm of infinite potentialities.

In dreams anything is possible. Dreaming is the ancient playground of the gods.

And just so you don't leave here empty handed today, I will tell you one example of what these gods did with dreaming. (Feel free to think of this as fiction if it helps you.)

The gods imagined a 4-dimensional spacetime. First there was darkness. Then the gods imagined the earth and the infinite stars. Of course you understand that in dreaming, to imagine something is to literally bring it into existence right in front of your eyes. Anyway, the gods imagined the oceans, and the plants and animals, and also man and woman who they deemed worthy to serve them.

Some believe it took the gods seven days to set up the universe, others believe it took them the blink of an eye.

So, once the gods had imagined everything they wanted, they blew their breath on the world and it started to move. The earth and the stars began rotating and the wind started to blow..

Some people believe that the pyramids of Teotlhuacan and Giza are natural features of this earth, and that they've stood there from the very beginning. Others believe that the gods descended bodily to the earth at some point and built them.

Still others believe that certain Mayan populations that seemed to have suddenly disappeared without a trace and without a cause, were actually moved to another dream-earth by some godlike men and women..

I say Noah's Ark FTW.

[asiaticdarkperson]

I realize this sounds like a fantasy sci-fi theory.

This past winter I read every work I could find, written on these matters in the past century.

I read Erich Von Daniken who sounds like a loonie-tune sometimes. I read 8 books by Zecharia Sitchin, who appears to be out of his mind yet in the most rational coherent way possible. But in the end I thought, these people have been to every sacred place and possibly every ancient setting on earth and they've passionately studied them up close. Who am I to think I know better than them? So I allowed for their the-aliens-did-it hypothesis.

I read three of James Churchward's Mu series. I thought Mr. Churchward's ideas were definitely out of this world insane, and yet I couldn't deny his sheer genius and the mystical vibe that surrounds his works. So I also allowed for his advanced Mu culture.

Then I read the likes of Colin Wilson and Graham Hancock who are altogether much more credible characters I think. I was surprised that these fellows who are obviously completely sane and sober, and who kept their speculation to a minimum, ended up reaching pretty much the same conclusions as the other authors.

I read Jacques Vallee's "Passport to Magonia: On UFOs, Folklore, and Parallel Worlds," Terence Mckenna's "Food of the gods" Ignatius Donnelly's "Atlantis - The Antediluvian World," Giorgio De Santillana & Hertha von Dechend's "Hamlet's Mill" and one or two other books that I seem to have lost somehow.

From what I have been able to gather, pretty much all the people who have in the past century studied the mystery of our origins and the origins of our civilization on their own and without the meddling of the academic establishment, have reached the conclusion that we, as in the people who live on earth today did not and could not have set up civilization.

Some of the authors believe aliens have been on earth. Others believe in supernatural ethereal entities like gods and demons. Still others believe the image of aliens and gods are a result of psychoactive plant use among our ancestors.

While I find their speculations fascinating. I find their actual work, as in their research, and the hard facts and material evidence that they present much more interesting.

I believe a shitload of strange things happens constantly right under our noses, but the media never tells us.

My mind immediately goes to the Mary Celeste. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste)

And how the populations of entire cities in mesoamerica, most certainly ranging in the hundreds of thousands, disappeared from the face of the earth without a trace. And why did they leave all their belongings behind?

I see that a few weeks ago a strange object was discovered at the bottom of the Baltic sea. How much will you bet that we (the public) will never find out what the object is? And this is such an obvious and shameless pattern.

At this point, I wouldn't put it past the establishment to have actually found UFOs and aliens in Roswell sixty years ago. The aliens are probably exploited by "the corporation" as slaves. They probably had to procreate in captivity so their offspring would also serve the slave masters.

And then there's the "UFO sighting" over Tehran in the 70s. This particular case is apparently the most credible UFO sighting in history, according to many. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran_UFO_incident)

I think it's really obvious, the very fact that the establishment keeps quiet when it comes to such matters is itself evidence that something is going on. The fact that anyone who chooses to investigate these matters is labelled a crank, is just pathetic I think. I mean I know we are very judgemental, but why insult someone who is just doing research? Why insult anyone at all?!

[karlsie]

On dreaming: I don't know what there is about it, if it's the pyramids or the knowledge that continues to transmit freely among the people, but as i began to immerse myself in Mexico, i began to discover that while in the state of dreaming, they still interacted. Because they were dreams, there was much more truthfulness to them, more honesty of emotions as well as backgrounds that revealed each person's preferences. When you dreamed of one of your Mexican friends or companions, the other person knew it. You could see it in their faces, in their actions. Sometimes, they spoke of it. After awhile, your waking life and your dreaming life were one and the same.

As far as aliens go, i don't rule out the possibility. I have seen the drawings on the pyramids that looked like space crafts and what could easily be interpreted as men in space suits with cumbersome helmets, floating around with long tubes attached to their backs. Neither do i rule out the possibility that they are not aliens at all in the strictest sense, but beings that have returned to earth numerous times for whatever reason. I've considered the possibility that these "aliens" are perhaps scientists who check in with us every now and then to see how we are evolving. Maybe they have evolved dimensionally. Maybe our limited vision that filters everything we don't understand, can't see them. Maybe they represent the next phase in our evolutionary scale. I think about all these things because in the long, winter nights when the world is silent, what else is there to do?