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Post by grainnerhuad on Jan 2, 2012 15:13:42 GMT -5
Wow, leave a thread for a couple of days and magic happens. Now I'll never catch up.
Sh- Being "no expert" is the best way to be, it means you are open to learning and there is always something to learn isn't there. It's part of why we put ourselves out there so candidly around here, so people can correct, complain and educate us. It is the gift of being interested, interesting and available which you are.
I agree with Karla. This is immensely interesting and we can work with you to edit it into an article. It is one of those that I think will garner academic reception-aka: you may not get a lot of comments but many will read it and link to it.
@ Dylan- Your Pack Mother knows what is best for you...but puppies are fun to play with so I understand you missing the tree and them.
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Post by The Late Mitchell Warren on Jan 2, 2012 22:58:53 GMT -5
"As for humans, I think monogamy is a sham. In my opinion, 99% of people will cheat on their spouse, regardless of whether they are in love with their spouse or not. We seem to have excess sexual energy, somehow. Or could it be that we are deprived of all other pleasures, so we indulge in meaningless sex? Who knows. I believe most men have a strange urge to "possess" every woman they can find. I think we're just too self-indulgent, really."
I agree that in some countries, (the US being the only one I truly have experienced) many marriages are a sham. All creatures are sexual beings and have the ability to be promiscuous, and the ability to be monogamous.
However, we are self-limiting (or self-expanding) by our own desires. Our behavior, (which is shaped by experiences, parental guidance and education (particularly during youth) is what creates the kind of "animal" or "robot" that we are.
So by our own choice, we become a particular type of animal, whether that is an "old married fogey" or a "whore". (Of course, human beings insist on labeling people by their behavior which only adds to the animal instinct....as in the little voices that suggest "Why are you still married when you could have so many others..." or "Why are you still acting like a child" or "why don't you slow down and take relationships seriously..."
So the voice of society also influences our "instincts", which are our actionable thoughts, which have been influenced by repetition education.
But I think it's rather dogmatic to state either extreme: (A) that human animals are driven entirely by choice or (B) entirely by genetics. I think it's quite possible, for example, that some people are born gay (due to genetic traits handed down by their ancestors), and some people become gay through choices and experiences. And I don't see why it's politically incorrect to theorize this.
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Post by sh on Jan 3, 2012 4:35:17 GMT -5
Grainne, all I could ever hope for, is for people to hear my message of unity in this article.
Mitch, you are right, no doubt. But all this only applies to people who believe they are alive.
I believe my life has already come and gone. I'm just not aware of the end, yet.
As such I don't put much stock in what my self perceives.
An example of this is our understanding of time. We believe time flows as a linear sequence, in one direction. We believe this because we are always moving away from the moment that just passed us.
I see that we have our backs turned to the world and only experience life as it recedes from us.
This is an absolutely primitive concept of time.
Time is infinitely complex. It warps. It is composed of infinite realms. It flows in infinite directions.
To be trapped in a single tunnel of time is our self's doing.
What I'm trying to say, and you most certainly aren't going to like, is that our lives have already happened. We believe we can influence the course of our lives and "get somewhere." This simply isn't true.
The only place we are all going, is death.
For example, to me it seems that it was inevitable that I should find subversify. Every single decision I've made in my life added up to bring me here, now.
I really had no decision in the matter.
Some day, somewhere, I am going to find my death, just like I found this site. And then, I will know that every decision I made in my whole life was just so I would be there at that specific place and time, so death could take me.
-f
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Post by The Late Mitchell Warren on Jan 9, 2012 23:49:37 GMT -5
That would be cool, SH, to know that everything we do in life is some sort of destiny or meaning. Sure beats the predominant view that nothing matters and everything is randomized.
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Post by sh on Jan 9, 2012 23:53:38 GMT -5
Mitch, I believe destiny only applies to people who have conquered their "selves."
I believe, as long as a man/woman is a slave to his/her self, there is no fate or destiny, there is no magic or wonder, and there is no awe.
-f
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Post by sh on Jan 11, 2012 0:32:08 GMT -5
Is this article racist, you guys? I'm so disappointed... I really didn't think I was a racist.
-f
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