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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 3, 2012 6:45:09 GMT -5
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 3, 2012 6:51:44 GMT -5
holy fuckin shit the whole world's going crazy www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/opinion/starving-iran-wont-free-it.htmlIs this offensive or what? And then they go on to say "..under the corrupt and incompetent administration of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad." jesus christ this article is a new level of fucked up. "The change that most Iranians are hungry for is economic.." Well fuck yeah do you know any other country in the history of humanity that's been as isolated as Iran? Do you know what would happen to the US if the same sanctions were imposed on it? man, there's so much bullshit here that I'm just really baffled..
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 3, 2012 7:07:44 GMT -5
The president of Israel believes Iran is morally corrupt. What does this tell you??
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 3, 2012 9:01:06 GMT -5
I think the understatement of the century is the fact that the middle east belongs to the Arabs and the Persians, considering it has been so for thousands of years. I know that Arabs and Persians don't particularly like each other; just like the Finns and Swedes, they make fun of eachother and they've got some sort of competitive mentality that is quite apparent for example in ice hockey matches between the nordic rivals, or soccer games between Iranian teams and Arab teams.. And yet, they know how to get along and they make a good team whenever they work side by side. The rest of the world can't tell the difference between a Finn and a Swede; but they are actually distinct and they are completely aware of their distinction. Let me tell you, you don't ever tell a Finn that you mistook him for a Swede! And you never tell a Persian that you thought he was an Arab!! This has been historically so IMO. But now the west is creating a rift between these thousand year old neighbors for its own benefit.. I wish these stupid faggot Persians and Arabs would just fuckin unite already. They're so ignorant.. they don't realize what they have at all and they don't realize what they stand to gain. I have a little history lesson here.. So once upon a time there was this guy Mohamed. He united a bunch of tribes under the name of Arabia and then died. Before he died he wrote a book in which he described exactly how he was able to conquer and unite hearts the way he did. After Mohamed's death other people got hold of this book and as it happened they conquered half the world over a period of hundreds of years. Their capitals Baghdad, Isfahan, Damascus, etc, the capitals of Islam, became the capitals of science and art, military strategy and medicine and all things pertaining to civilization. At some point the book fell into disuse and all was lost. I think Mohamed really proved that he was the real deal. Even ~1400 years after his death, his intent is still moving shit around on earth. So, retarded middle-eastern morons: wake the fuck up and use what you have, or die.
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 3, 2012 9:35:01 GMT -5
So here's what I see.
These guys can unite under the banner of Islam and become one giant nation practically overnight. The following day they could sanction the US and stop doing business with it altogether (ie. stop selling oil) as their first act as a nation.
The united states of america will crumble in a week. It will split into fifty different countries if you ask me.
And israel will start a nuclear war. (this happens at the end of every possible scenario imo)
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 3, 2012 10:50:31 GMT -5
And what is this sick hate for Islam that so prevails in western hearts almost biologically??
To quote John Cena's tshirt "Rise Above Hate"
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 3, 2012 11:17:46 GMT -5
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 4, 2012 13:08:47 GMT -5
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 4, 2012 13:15:40 GMT -5
Dear imperialist kings: You are pathetic and disgusting.
I hope terrorists blow you and your zombie slaves up.
Looking forward to your downfall.
-f
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Post by karlsie on Mar 4, 2012 17:17:11 GMT -5
Asi, what i see is the big oil kings; BP, Shell and Exxon, are doing everything they can to insure they dominate the prices, trade and control over oil production, while insuring that the energy consumption of oil rich countries continues to be oil. I believe this is the primary motivation for Big Oil to take a sudden concern in Alaska's environment while it contemplates the advantages of hydroelectric power. If they are so concerned about the environment, why do they wish to drill in the Chukchi Sea where not only is all its large marine life will be endangered, but that will cause a world wide effect if an oil disaster is committed under the sea?
If Iran had arrived at a contractual agreement with the West for nuclear technology, construction and production, the tune might have been a bit different, but a contract would have taken at least fifty years. In the meantime, the companies would still be frantically trying to control Iran's oil, squeezing out every last drop, while stalling efforts to give Iran nuclear capacity out of "concern for the environment". The big oil companies; Shell, Exxon and BP; are the biggest bold faced liars in the world and they control the corporate governments, the economy and the media.
Here, in the United States, the cost of oil has gotten so high, manufacturers are selling products barely over the cost of production because if they charged more, nobody would be able to afford them. The rates are expected to increase by another two dollars by this summer. The oil companies say that this is because Iran monopolizes the sweet crude oil that makes production cheap; but guess what? BP and Exxon have been holding a lease on North Slope oil fields located near the Prudhoe Bay. Prudhoe has been pumping sweet crude for forty years, and estimates are that the North Slope has at least the same yield, but they have not yet even begun to develop their lease holding.
Their excuse for non-development in the past was that the price of oil was too cheap to justify developing their fields and they were waiting for price per barrel to go up. The price has gone up, so what is the excuse now? They whine that Alaska charges too much in taxes and their environmental laws are too stringent to make development profitable. Actually, our taxes on oil are within the International norm, but the money is channeled into investments that bring Alaskan a permanent fund dividend once a year.
I see a lot of parallels between the way the two countries (please, in instances like this, let's just call Alaska a country as the most common denominator between it and the Continental US is common language and a strangle hold by US federal government) in terms of governance. We are both oil rich and have taken those oil proceeds to enhance the lives of its inhabitants. Beside our PFD, we have beautiful parks, recreational centers, schools with swimming pools, wonderful libraries and compassionate senior centers created from oil wealth. We are both countries whose friendship with big oil companies has come to an end and are looking for ways to develop our other energy resources.
The biggest difference is population. Our largest city wouldn't be more than a medium sized town in Iran. With half a million people, even "city" is a loose term. The City of Anchorage, which claims one hundred square miles, is considered the largest small city in the world. It's southeastern boundary contains the ski resort town of Girdwood, with five thousand people, located forty miles from the city hub. The far northwestern boundary covers the Athabascan community of Eklutha, thirty miles from the hub and with a population of about two thousand. In a country, roughly the same size as your own, this one hundred mile stretch contains over half the population of Alaska. We are but a burp in the wilderness.
We don't have the manpower to go against the imperialists, although we have the will to find other options to their dictates. We have no desire to go to war with any other country. No country has done us wrong, only the capitalists who abuse our resources without fear of consequences for their actions. I wish Iran every bit of luck in going against the corporate monsters who use every bit of propaganda material at their disposal to spread their lies. Iran is doing what we can't do except through paperwork transactions. I know that as spring progresses and oil prices climb steadily higher, Americans will bitterly complain that it's Iran's fault, but we won't. We've met the enemy and know its face every bit as well as you do.
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 4, 2012 18:35:11 GMT -5
I know big oil doesn't care about the environment karlsie. You should see what they're doing to the amazon; you should see the pipelines running through the forest.. The oil companies cut down the forest to make roads to install the pipeline. With roads the forest became accessible to civilization.. loggers, latex collectors, and all kinds of scammers started to enter into the native people's territories..
The natives knew that if they stood their ground and put up a fight they would be crushed, some of them decided to make deals with the white man while others thought best to pack up and move deeper into the jungle, away from big rivers and roads.
Today the ones that stayed are IMO the most wretched people on earth. They are in much worse shape than the people of Bangladesh and Nepal IMO. These people's children were lured away from their own culture by missionaries and taught to wear clothes and worship jesus. It is very common for these people to send their 12 year old girls out to work as prostitutes serving tourists, because that is the age the tourists pay most for. These people are so extremely poor because they are useless to western civilization, there is no place for them. And yet they can't return to their hunter-gatherer mentality because their elders who knew that lifestyle are all dead/gone. The missionaries were counting on this when they were brainwashing the children as early as 60 years ago.
The ones who are moving deeper and deeper into the rainforest every year are much different than what the western man imagines IMO (maybe not in terms of appearance, but rather culture, religion and behavior.) These people are naked and pierced all over. They paint their bodies red with a plant they call "onoto." They practice neoantecide to control their population, and they eat the powdered bones of their dead. They ingest very powerful psychedelics like Ayahuasca, Epena and Cebil on a daily basis. (DMT, 5-MEO-DMT and 5-OH-DMT respectively) Their subsistence is largely based on hunting and gathering; they don't grow crops or engage in any farming techniques the way we do. They grow certain "magical plants" (their term) in their gardens surrounding their 'shabono' (settlement; big round house) these are usually either special psychoactives or medicinal plants. They cultivate plantains too. These people raid other settlements and steal women. They get married in their teens. They climb trees better than monkeys and by my estimate they are the most skilled hunters on earth today, and not just among men but all creatures. These guys call us "racionales" or rational people, and they firmly believe that we are insane. They avoid us at all costs because they think our affliction might be contagious. And yet their elders and shaman believe that the time of their people is almost up; they say the destruction the white man is causing is irreparable.
The second group are surviving beautifully IMO. But the civilized amazonians have serious problems with alcohol and stealing. They steal from other civilized tribes and they fight pointlessly among themselves. These guys call their uncivilized cousins "barbarians" and "savages" and they are afraid and won't let their children associate with the savages in any shape or form.
In recent years the Amazon has been getting a lot of Ayahuasca tourism. These are usually young people who want to experience the drug with a genuine shaman. The real shamans in the amazon have been part of traditions stretching back ten thousand years in some cases; that is, they've been drinking ayahuasca for 10,000 years generation after generation.. So, their knowledge is priceless. But these days, there are plenty of the civilized amazonians pretending to be shamans, giving tourists fake or weak brews and scamming them out of their money. These guys don't know the first thing about ayahuasca, all they care about is making money..
It's a really sad story what's happening out there. What these civilized natives have been reduced to is truly tragic, yet amusing IMO. Their bastardized form of christianity and their clothes that are always somehow either too big or too small, is very amusing. They have absolutely no fashion sense. hehe.. I encourage everyone around me to save up and go see the great amazon jungle and its natives before they are both gone.. You probably won't find the hunter-gatherers though, they live in the most inaccessible places..
So, the oil companies and the white man's culture in general are destroying a forest that is home to so many tribes and have subjected the naive native people to the cunning and cruelty of western culture. The result has been horrific. You really have to see these christian amazonians to realize how deeply fucked up they are.
I'm not taking big oil's side when I say damming rivers is a bad idea karlsie. IMO rivers are living beings.. each of them has a unique personality and history.. some of them have carved themselves deep canyons and valleys over millions of years. IMO every river on earth obviously has a spirit, just like every forest has a spirit. I think manipulating the earth the way we do is true black magic.. we are a bunch of black magicians trying to dominate all that stands on the ground for our benefit.
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Post by karlsie on Mar 5, 2012 0:04:04 GMT -5
If we retreat to our subsistence life styles, the corporates will just take over. They got their foot hold during the pipeline. They bought up the Matanuska Valley and turned it into residential housing for oil employees. The Valley was our best farmland and now all it contains is shopping malls, fast food service, a handful of mom and pop stores and overpriced housing. They filled in estuaries for commercial enterprise. They want to dig a hole into the side of an active volcano and leach the poisons from their mining operation into the sea. They bought up forest land near Valdez and hired some Native people to put on a show for tourists each year by living in a "village" that gets dismantled each autumn. Even Barrow has been affected.
My boss, who is Inuit, recently returned to Barrow for a visit after having been gone for quite a few years. She was amazed at the way the town had grown up around her, and that it was Colonialists, not Inuit who owned the brand new homes and businesses. Part of her story is rather cute, though. She said she walked into a grocery store and discovered that the manager, who was black, was speaking in the Inupiaq language. "I didn't know black people could speak Eskimo," she said.
The point is, we allowed the corporates to move in out of ignorance. We were isolated from the rest of the world. Our communications were nearly all local. We were backward by global standards. Should we surrender our electricity, our Internet, our automobiles and aircraft, burn wood in the winter to keep us warm and maybe have to do what one of the villages was forced to do last winter, and dismantle one of our buildings for kindling to keep us warm, only to raise another generation that is ignorant to the ways of the world? Or should we study all the ways we can to become a self-sustaining entity, competitive and knowledgeable so we can get out from under the thumb of corporate control?
Maybe the answer isn't in changing the course of a river, but we desperately need some answers. Responsible development has ground down to no development at all until we find them.
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 5, 2012 15:58:02 GMT -5
Well karlsie.. I don't know what to say. But I do know that some people in Iran expect a time-travelling sorcerer to show up any day now and destroy their enemies.. ( www.al-islam.org/occultation_12imam/2.htm) LOL things are really bad.. and what hope is there really?
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 5, 2012 16:22:51 GMT -5
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Mahdien.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_OccultationThe Iranian government and the supreme leader Khamenei (Khomeini's successor) have emphasized many times that Iran belongs to Al-Mahdi; they state that they are keeping it out of imperialist hands so that when he rises he will have a nation to back him. Many Iranians pray for the return of Mahdi on a regular basis. People have bumper stickers here that are prayers for his return. Although, in order to understand Mahdi you need to know about Imam Husein and the Asura incident and also about Husein's father Ali. Wikipedia is probably the least biased source, but it's definitely not the most comprehensive IMO. Iranians mourn the martyrdom of Hussein for 10 days every year. They cry for him and for his struggle. They pledge allegiance to his cause, which is the liberation of man and they condemn those who killed him (ie. materialist greed) The mourning ceremonies are like public parades where people come together and walk around the city.. people join in as the "dasteh" (the herds of mourning people) walk past their house. They are very loud; they hold up black flags and a guy at the head of the group sings sad songs that tell the story of the day of Asura when Husein and his 72 followers were betrayed, defeated and executed in the desert of Karbala. People very generously distribute free food during the whole 10 days, all over the country. Everyone in Iran takes part in Asura mourning; all 75 million, young and old -- everyone. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussein_ibn_Ali
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Post by asiaticdarkperson on Mar 5, 2012 20:24:24 GMT -5
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